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Venom, Spider-Man and the Sony-Led Marvel-verse is not as connected as we thought

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It seems Sony’s Amy Pascal’s near-diarrhoeal excited-spewing of Sony / Marvel plans to fans was truly putting the cart in front of the horse.

Originally, she hinted that Venom and films like Black Cat, Silver Sable (and like by extension Mysterio and Kraven) would be linked to Spider-Man and the MCU. Well, it seems like we both have different interpretations of what MCU stands for.

Here’s Pascal speaking to Collider:

Collider: Just to be definitive, Spider-Man will not appear in any of these spinoffs for now.

Pascal: For now, correct. All of them are part of the Marvel comic universe. Not all of them are part of Marvel cinematic universe.

Okay, then. Glad we cleared that up.
 
But on the upside, it seems Sony is focusing more on story than a big, interconnected Sony/Marvel-verse, although I personally wouldn’t call Iron-Man a great movie. Here’s the convo between her and Marvel’s Kevin Feige:

Pascal: I would say who the hell knows what happens.

Feige: But are Venom and Black Cat and stuff connected or no, you’re just making the movies, right?

Pascal: Right now, it’s sort of like Iron Man when you did the first Iron Man. Right now, these first movies are establishing these characters.

Feige: That’s very smart and we’ve talked before that when we started Iron Man, we didn’t sit down and go, “Let’s make a cinematic universe.” We said, “Let’s make a good Iron Man movie.”

Pascal: Sure, we said, “Let’s make a good movie.” But you know, it gets really fucked up when all people are talking about is the world of the franchise. You know people used to come to me and go, “I can make a franchise out of this for you. I can write a bible,” like for the most absurd things. And you’re like, “I don’t need a franchise. I just need a movie.” And it’s annoying.

So, yeah, bit of back peddling but we got there.
 
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Tom Holland was also asked in an interview on whether the Tom Hardy’s Venom existed in a separate universe he seemed to hint that it was:

Sadly, I think that is true. From my understanding, I think that is the case. I’d love to make a movie with Tom Hardy. If we ever got the chance to make a Venom movie together, that would be super-cool, but his movie would have to take place in the MCU because I’m not giving up my ticket in the MCU.

So, there seems to be a chance still that they could allude to a connected universe, but this would likely be only on an Marvel-led project.

Other than that, Sony goes solo.
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Venom is slated for cinematic release come October 5th 2018

 

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